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Sr. John Dominic: We’ve had conversations about neuro-interpersonal, neurobiology, which is a new neuroplasticity. That’s an interest that I’ve had on the education side of things. Why don’t you share where you are at with that?
Amy Grant: In a nutshell, ten years ago, my niece was living with us, and she would say, “I don’t remember my twenties” [due to] multiple overdose attempts, and she was just kind of crazy. At the time, her behavior was so outlandish, and someone I knew peripherally saw her in public, the way she was dressed, the way she was acting, they said, “There is a technology coming out of Scottsdale, Arizona. Investigate it and trust the process.” And I was just thinking, “Okay. Anything, help.” I met a man that had a license for this technology. She went through ten, two-hour sessions and was radically changed, and I was so taken with it that I found myself going, “Who else needs this?”
I went to the head of the Yellow Ribbon program. It was a school for veterans that were high-risk or PTSD or wounded and I went to a veteran and asked the head of the program I said, “Can I put you through this technology? It really helped my niece.” He looked at me like, “Do you think I’m crazy?” I said, “It’s not going to tell you you’re crazy, but it will help your brain balance itself in the present moment instead of being traumatized by the past.”
Ten years ago, I probably put twenty people through the technology. Then the license disappeared in Nashville. All that time, this inventor was working on that technology. This past February, I was in Phoenix, Arizona, and I was seeing a friend of mine. We were driving around, and she said, “Ah, you’ve got to look out the other window. The snow on the hills of Scottsdale is amazing. You don’t ever see that.” It was like somebody had said, “Will you pass the salt?” I went, “I think I’m supposed to make a phone call.” I called the inventor of this technology. I had a years-old email. The company had changed names. I said, “I’m calling to thank you, and do you want to come to my show tonight?” He said, “I was hoping you were a bolt out of heaven.”
That night I had a dream on the tour bus, and it was the craziest thing. I went back to him and said, “I know this technology works. I know it does. You have lived with your cast of engineers like in a mole run.” They’ve never done any advertising. I believe that I was divinely led to this man to use my connections to bring this technology first to the under-served and then to the world at large. It’s non-invasive, and it allows the brain to heal itself.
Sr. John Dominic: We can just now finally understand the brain and the mind that God has created us to be and it is unbelievable.
Amy Grant: I don’t know of anything else it does this because everything that has to do with the brain – that I have heard of – whether it’s magnets or tones or EMDR – everything is taking an exterior, an outside force, and trying to impose some change in the way the brain responds. Everything is an outside force going in, but this technology came about because the inventor was actually attacked by a gang. He was hit in the head with a baseball bat. He was already a scientist, already worked in technology, and in his attempt to find healing for himself. Everyone kept saying, “You’re fine. You’re fine.” He said, “I’m not okay. I’m not okay. Nothing helps.” And every doctor everybody every counselor said, “It’s all in your head.” And he said “Yes, it is” and he just said, “if the brain is nearly infinite, how can anything be imposed on it and expect a lasting change?
What if, like our skin that heals itself, what if a brain, if it could see itself, could balance itself? Because an imbalanced brain is one that reacts from the past. Everything is a trigger; and for a brain to actually have the chance to balance itself, allows a person to respond in the present moment instead of being triggered from the past.”
And I mean, there’s something deeply spiritual about that. God said “I Am.” I mean you can’t get more present than that. And so whatever is real in this moment, it doesn’t mean there’s not trauma from the past but trauma from the past should not be the loudest voice today. And that really is what this technology is doing.
I feel like I stepped into the picture of this research company when they were on the two yard line and I was like, “Let me get my cheerleader outfit on and pom poms!” I’ve had so many contacts with people from all walks of life and my experience in philanthropy and you know, I’m a storyteller and I’ll go, “Can I show you a picture of this person who was in sex trafficking and they did four sessions and now they look like this?” And the furrowed brow is gone. You don’t have to buy a pill, you know, it’s just like people go, “Can I be part of that?”
Sr. John Dominic: This is amazing! It’s completely non-invasive – is it like franchising?
Amy Grant: They have three different platforms one is the franchise model because anybody that does the technology – and, if you think of the word reset, the name of the company is cereset. So, ‘c’ and then the word ‘reset’ like cerebellum.
And so, there’s a franchise model, but now used to take a year to be to learn to be trained how to do this, but now anyone can be trained. It takes about three weeks and they’re just cookie cutter sessions that just allow the brain and opportunity to see itself. I’ve been through the training; I’ve worked on Veterans, I’ve worked on teenagers, I’ve worked on older people. And it’s so interesting how we react to patterns in our brain that we’re not even aware of. You give a chance for those patterns to dissolve, or to recede, and new patterns be established.
Sr. John Dominic: So, does it take – is there a certain number of treatments or is it – because usually they’re like twenty-one days, you know, or if someone has – is it just a few sessions?
Amy Grant: It takes four, basically hour-and-a-half to two-hour session.
Sr. John Dominic: You know, this is this is going to be life-changing for people.
Amy Grant: It will be. And how brain health is just like every other part of emotional health, physical health. Our health is an ongoing practice. And it’s so interesting to me, even how scripture plays into this like, “Whatsoever is true, whatsoever is noble, whatsoever is of good repute, you’ll think on these things.” I mean, that is a good brain practice. Every time you have a thought, every time you relive an argument, you’re deepening a track in your brain. And you know, so for instance, we’ll do four sessions with somebody and then we’ll say, “Now, it’s important for you to protect your sleep. Don’t drink a coke at 11 p.m. and get on a screen, you know wind down, because only you can close your eyes and give yourself a chance to rest and resting is important. And look at the stressors in your life because when somebody’s coming from a place of balance, they look at things differently.”
Someone walks in in a mirror just full of trauma, and we do the sessions on the husband and the wife. And what feels different, they might have walked 500 yards away from each other, and choices, and who did what, both people are 500 yards away from each other both of them with broken limbs. And what this feels like, is for somebody to try to walk on a broken limb, is excruciating. And this these sessions feel like setting the bones and putting on a hard cast that’s got a walking soul. And you go, “You are still five hundred yards away from each other. But you have the ability to walk towards each other.” So much of life is a choice, you know,
Sr. John Dominic: I mean, it has to be so fulfilling, you know, because you’re helping people heal. Has there been anything with this with addiction?
Amy Grant: A lot of times, you know, it’s really a pre-existing imbalance. That makes someone right so This morning. I was looking at the graphs of a young woman that’s battling a lot of depression. Her family is so worried about her. And, it’s interesting because, when I was looking at kind of your stress sensors, which are your temples – everything looked fairly balanced until the very lowest frequency and that was all the way – just hanging way out to the right – low frequencies. I just said, “Can you get a message to this woman’s mother and ask if there’s anything that happened to her in utero or in the first year of her life?” Because how the brain stores information and where the brain stores information – and I got I got a text with a list that long; it was like this, this, this, this, this, this, this. And I thought, “What if this woman’s life is playing out the way it is because some of her reactivity has to do with something she can’t even remember – where she had no control over. So, all I do, you know, all any of us that do that are tech coaches for this cereset technology, is when a client comes and sits in the chair – and there’s a pattern of where you place the sensors on their head – we usually do three sets of placements, start the exercise and the sensor takes that brain activity and runs it through this proprietary algorithm, and then plays back for them a pattern of notes. It’s not technically what the brain, it’s not music the brain is making, but it’s a reflection of the brain’s activity. The brain has two jobs: to keep you alive and to normalize your experience, whatever that is. And so, the brain is always on guard.
So that sound that the brain is hearing, it’s like, “What is that? What is that?” and then it doesn’t take very long and the brain realizes that that combination of tones is actually a reflection of itself, and so then it relaxes deeply and as it relaxes every brain in its own time starts bouncing itself. It’s not something we’re doing. We’re just providing an acoustic mirror. To women I said, “If you had to get dressed for a black-tie function in a dark closet, you would go, ‘I know myself. Okay. I know this dress.’ You’d put it all on and then if you stepped into the light and looked in the mirror and went, ‘I have three chin hairs, a booger in my nose, my hair’s a mess, and a run in my stockings.’ You would go, ‘Give me 10 minutes.’ “ And it’s the same thing. It’s like I can see and seeing makes you be aware of all the adjustments.
Sr. John Dominic: Well, God is good all the time!
For more of Amy Grant, check out the two-part interview from which this clip was taken in the Mind & Heart – Nashville Series: